tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post7232052037432046666..comments2023-10-24T06:23:53.008-04:00Comments on Saint Brian's Chronicles: Good Book, Evil BookSaint Brian the Godlesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comBlogger118125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-72346868634135435972010-08-25T18:08:38.080-04:002010-08-25T18:08:38.080-04:00So it's like a natural accretion of code with ...So it's like a natural accretion of code with the only governing stipulation that it be good for the survival of the organism. The organism being of course, the religion. It could have ended in many other ways, but random factors give us what we know today.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-82737422059544280322010-08-25T16:56:39.142-04:002010-08-25T16:56:39.142-04:00Although one of the things I loath most of all in ...Although one of the things I loath most of all in the universe is Leonard Pinth-Garnell's, "Bad Evolutionary Metaphors", I feel drawn to one like the doomed moth to the flame. <br /><br />Supreme irony warning: Much like our own genome, the Bible looks not like a system that was created in whole at one time but rather like the various bits and pieces that evolved over time into what we see today. <br /><br />The various denominations of Protestantism look a lot like genetic drift where most minor mutations accumulate over time with little effect on the greater whole. (Was the Reformation a speciation event ;)?)<br /><br />Genesis is much like a dormant section of DNA that is a hold over from an earlier time but not subject to natural selection because its presence or absence was until recently of little real importance to the Bible as a whole. <br /><br />Now of course it is important in the natural selection of the Bible since competing memes exploit the vulnerability of the whole through the mechanism of absurdism created by its existence. <br /><br />The metaphor of course also pokes a hole in the notion of Biblical exceptionalism since along the way many events might have taken place to make it a very different composite than the one of today.Pliny-the-in-Betweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16580900408227953736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-80778274245329276232010-08-25T15:17:46.526-04:002010-08-25T15:17:46.526-04:00New post is up.New post is up.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-66558738528555883052010-08-25T01:31:28.844-04:002010-08-25T01:31:28.844-04:00Ahh yes, the venerable Book of Armaments. How did...Ahh yes, the venerable Book of Armaments. How did that slip my mind? <br /><br />SIX!Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-80840797174415396402010-08-24T23:54:12.803-04:002010-08-24T23:54:12.803-04:00Brian said,
"...I wonder which inspired scri...Brian said,<br /><br />"...I wonder which inspired scriptures inspired that priest to plant car bombs?"<br /><br />From this:<br /><br />"Book of Armaments, Chapter 2, verses 9-21:. <br /><br />“ ...And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the Lord did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... [At this point, the friar is urged by Brother Maynard to "skip a bit, brother"]... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceedest to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.GearHedEdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288513835630145996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-32474025599253323852010-08-24T19:18:49.483-04:002010-08-24T19:18:49.483-04:00Getting back to mike,
The 'good job' comm...Getting back to mike,<br /><br />The 'good job' comment again, sorry. And sorry for the 'r' word there, I only said it because if you read back it was a topic of conversation. <br /><br />Good job. I kept thinking about that. <br /><br />Why would you see the chosen 'inspired' texts as all a 'good job?' <br /><br />You're judging them *by* the bible that you already know. And gee, look at that, they fit! <br /><br />Good job, mike. Good job.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-21682848395758871372010-08-24T18:46:43.215-04:002010-08-24T18:46:43.215-04:00All true pboy, yes, it's about separation betw...All true pboy, yes, it's about separation between the 'earthly' realm in which you the believer has a shit lot in life, and the 'spiritual' realm in which you will live as kings, basically... only of course, ya hafta die first, and in the mean time we'll just continue screwing you as god intended, thank you very much...<br /><br />However, and perhaps even coincidentally, it DOES in fact also happen to agree with the gnostic viewpoint of looking for god within one's self, which the church considered anathema.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-59490759884515022792010-08-24T17:18:45.115-04:002010-08-24T17:18:45.115-04:00Oh, come on Brian, this is 'out of context'...Oh, come on Brian, this is 'out of context'. Jesus is obviously talking to the masses here, and priests/pastors/anyone-who-imagines-himself-a-spokesman-for-any-group-of-Christians KNOW this, because this is what they'd tell THEIR flock to believe.<br /><br />But Jesus isn't refering to the church leaders or the top 2% of the wealthiest, no.<br /><br />The masses are encouraged to believe that there is a separation of the physical things in life, a separation of their money from their wallets! <br /><br />Church leaders are the beneficiaries of this 'bounty' and know that it's purpose is to increase their influence over more and more masses, because it's a business, like any other.<br /><br />I mean, they can't be just giving away that money to strangers and stuff. What? Are you nuts?<br /><br />At the very least, our Mike is into anti-socialist 'influence peddling'.<br /><br />They imagine themselves heroic for doing it, to boot!pboyfloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475980562742243007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-47295612559238996712010-08-24T16:47:31.076-04:002010-08-24T16:47:31.076-04:00Luke 17:20-21 (King James Version)
20And when he...Luke 17:20-21 (King James Version)<br /><br /> 20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: <br /><br /> 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.<br />---------------<br />Here Jesus is promoting practically the gnostic viewpoint. <br /><br />I guess this 'uninspired' quote just got in there by accident, then.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-22739370363371026802010-08-24T16:44:03.014-04:002010-08-24T16:44:03.014-04:00I wonder which inspired scriptures inspired that p...I wonder which inspired scriptures inspired that priest to plant car bombs?Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-3895679734203203142010-08-24T16:41:54.313-04:002010-08-24T16:41:54.313-04:00Interesting li nk, Jerry.
Will it never end? (...Interesting li nk, Jerry. <br /><br />Will it never end? (sigh)<br /><br />And I love how the northern ireland catholic church is denying any conspiracy. That's like a conspiracy denying a conspiracy.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-9454080356867787432010-08-24T16:16:35.519-04:002010-08-24T16:16:35.519-04:00http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/church-and-st...http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/church-and-state-concealed-priest-james-chesneys-role-in-northern-ireland-bombing/19605624?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%7C165837Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08042662884794386867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-11229146271817929142010-08-24T15:57:39.860-04:002010-08-24T15:57:39.860-04:00In a way Mike's right. Those other texts were...In a way Mike's right. Those other texts were not 'inspired' enough to fit in with a religion of control which went on to dominate humanity with it's corruption, greed, and authoritarianism. <br /><br />But I was under the impression that that's precisely what the protestants were 'protesting' against. <br /><br />So yes, those gnostic texts absolutely do not fit in with the 'world-domination' type christian theology at all. They tell you to look for god within yourself. Can't be having any of that. Nope, god is the sole property of the holy church. No competitors allowed.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-38049124935911233172010-08-24T15:40:47.089-04:002010-08-24T15:40:47.089-04:00Mike, you're judging the gnostic texts etc fro...Mike, you're judging the gnostic texts etc from the viewpoint of someone that is already conditioned in constantine's version of christianity. So naturally you reject them. You haven't got the imagination to look into them with YOUR eyes. You can only use the eyes of your conditioning. And your conditioning will only accept what it's conditioned to accept. Heck, you're not even involved in the decision anymore.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-42827209355510977472010-08-24T15:37:32.264-04:002010-08-24T15:37:32.264-04:00The baptists were not part of the protestant movem...The baptists were not part of the protestant movement? Then you're still catholics? <br /><br />Too funny. Mike, do you EVER divert from what you're told to believe? <br /><br />Never? <br /><br />Didn't think so.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-52902491452976585112010-08-24T15:31:32.618-04:002010-08-24T15:31:32.618-04:00The Catholics are accredited however with canonizi...The Catholics are accredited however with canonizing the Bible after the false books were rejected by their scholars They done a good job too I might add. <br />--------------<br />So when Constantine got all the bishops together representing many different beliefs within the religion, and told them that if they did not all agree with HIM, they would be summarily BANISHED, which back then was pretty much a death sentence, you're saying that what they then all agreed upon under duress, constantine's vision of the religion ONLY, and nobody elses allowed, that somehow that roman politician who hadn't even converted to the religion himself yet, DID A GOOD JOB?<br /><br />Are you retarded? <br /><br />(Sorry, harry)Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-12616179596895166232010-08-24T15:26:56.121-04:002010-08-24T15:26:56.121-04:00The Gnostic books were discarded because they were...The Gnostic books were discarded because they were not inspired, after reading some of them my self it was very evident that they were not God inspired.<br />---------------------<br />See, I guess that was the problem. Baptists like to think they're different, but they even agree as to what is 'inspired' when this was just how constantine justified basically burning books. Or eliminating them at any rate. <br />I guess it's hopeless. Mike has answered me. Why did the baptists and all the other protestant sects still ust the bible in spite of how stupid that sounds? <br /><br />They were still too conditioned NOT TO. <br /><br />Thanks mike. <br /><br />Oh, and what's it like being a protestant that thinks he's not? From where I sit, it's pretty funny stuff.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-14297904920490857872010-08-24T15:18:59.866-04:002010-08-24T15:18:59.866-04:00"because it was suppressed means it must be t..."because it was suppressed means it must be true" is some sort of fallacy...<br />------------<br />Oh ryan, I'm not saying this all as me here; I'm saying it as if I were one of those early protestants, what I would have done, where I would have looked for more of Jesus' philosophy, and since it was REJECTED by the church then chances are there is some fairly interesting stuff in there, and since it was hated by the church it might well constitute a valid spiritual path, like gnosis for instance. (When I say a valid spiritual path, I'm simply meaning allowing the people to look within themselves. The church didn't do that; christianity is not a valid spiritual path in that sense)Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-17279011384343369672010-08-24T15:09:05.594-04:002010-08-24T15:09:05.594-04:00Or are we to imagine a core 'real' church ...Or are we to imagine a core 'real' church which hid within Catholicism until the Protestant movement took hold and then adopted the King James Bible when THAT became available? <br /><br />An entire sect of Christians hiding the truth of their heresy(of the Catholic faith) from the Catholics? <br /><br />It's so easy to imagine that there were a few flocks of core believers who never did subscribe to any sect but yours down through history, but it doesn't make sense, it is anachronistic as far as their 'scripture'(which is entirely Protestant because you use the KJV).<br /><br />Did you guys just not bother with Scripture until King James commissioned his new Bible then?pboyfloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475980562742243007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-8406498507758595512010-08-24T15:00:34.946-04:002010-08-24T15:00:34.946-04:00I think that it's hilarious that Mike expects ...I think that it's hilarious that Mike expects us to imagine that there was this completely different sect, the Baptists, who can trace their lineage back to the Council of Nicea.<br /><br />It is YOU who is full of shit here Mike. First off the Catholics would not have put up with it. There's no record of some 'real' church paralleling the Catholics because every church was either brought in line or fought against.<br /><br />Are we to imagine Baptist churches dotted through Roman Europe and Middle Age Europe, presumably using King James Bibles transported, by God, back through time and their adversaries minds being clouded by God?<br /><br />It's ridiculous.pboyfloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475980562742243007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-22162107596893789652010-08-24T10:35:39.512-04:002010-08-24T10:35:39.512-04:00Mike The Baptist were NOT part of the Protasant mo...Mike <b>The Baptist were NOT part of the Protasant movement… They had nothing to protest because they were not part of the catholic church to begin with.</b><br /><br />Can you provide any evidence that your sect existed prior to 1650?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-42318512996230174152010-08-24T10:33:09.663-04:002010-08-24T10:33:09.663-04:00Mike said Brian this is complete and utter BS…
I ...Mike said <b>Brian this is complete and utter BS…</b><br /><br />I have to partially agree, mainly because I don't think there's any compelling reason to believe there ever was a "real message of Jesus Christ" and if there was, one can not say with any certainty that this "real message of Jesus Christ" ever got recorded accurately to begin with. There’s no reason to believe that the apocrypha is any more legitimate than the canonized Gospels. I would imagine that reasoning that "because it was suppressed means it must be true" is some sort of fallacy...<br /><br />As for Mike's idiotic statement <b>"...the Catholics DID NOT write the original manuscripts..."</b><br /><br />Paul was instrumental in founding the Catholic Church, is buried in a Pope’s Palace and wrote one third of your New Testament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-24772677520771526402010-08-24T09:01:38.207-04:002010-08-24T09:01:38.207-04:00Brian said,
I mean, if it were me back then, I...Brian said,<br /><br />I mean, if it were me back then, I'd be looking at all the material the council of nicea *discarded* for the real message of Jesus Christ. The apocrypha and all that. I'd be looking at the philosophies of those other types of christians that the church *massacred* such as the Knights Templar and the Cathars and the Gnostics, for real spiritual truth. Since that's why the church massacred them; because they couldn't have the competition for the human soul, couldn't have *other truths* out there. What I certainly WOULDN'T DO would have been to just adopt the book pretty much as-is, and call it mine, when it isn't.<br />---------------------<br />Brian this is complete and utter BS… ALL known books were studied for harmony and accuracy. The Gnostic books were discarded because they were not inspired, after reading some of them my self it was very evident that they were not God inspired.<br /><br />And by the way, the Catholics DID NOT write the original manuscripts as you and some of them may claim. They were written by the original followers of Christ of whom were not catholic. The Catholics are accredited however with canonizing the Bible after the false books were rejected by their scholars They done a good job too I might add. Your research on the Baptist church is incorrect… The Baptist were NOT part of the Protasant movement… They had nothing to protest because they were not part of the catholic church to begin with.Observanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09696286233553687281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-10107740612465145552010-08-23T19:37:51.095-04:002010-08-23T19:37:51.095-04:00And let's not forget the Arian Heresy that was...And let's not forget the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism" rel="nofollow">Arian Heresy</a> that was stamped out at Nicaea 325...GearHedEdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288513835630145996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2376937841692070856.post-53829433682377639822010-08-23T18:59:32.258-04:002010-08-23T18:59:32.258-04:00I mean, if it were me back then, I'd be lookin...I mean, if it were me back then, I'd be looking at all the material the council of nicea *discarded* for the real message of Jesus Christ. The apocrypha and all that. I'd be looking at the philosophies of those other types of christians that the church *massacred* such as the Knights Templar and the Cathars and the Gnostics, for real spiritual truth. Since that's why the church massacred them; because they couldn't have the competition for the human soul, couldn't have *other truths* out there. What I certainly WOULDN'T DO would have been to just adopt the book pretty much as-is, and call it mine, when it isn't.Saint Brian the Godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902151482640409544noreply@blogger.com