Friday, March 22, 2013
Foaming At The Ass/The Art of Stupid (Rant-O-Rama)
..........."Go away! Go to your own planet. You even took our rainbow away. What is a child supposed to think when they look at it? Dykes & Homo's? Whoever opened up that first closet really opened up Pandora's Box. Look at Phoneywood where people take this situation. Half of them are half a fag and the rest die of AIDS! Oh cry me a river. A man's private's belong in a woman. Not another man's butt. Women? What were you afraid of in life? No excuse. Disgusting! Not normal being's. What is normal? Not what your sect is doing. So all of you can get on the Big Ship Lollipop and enjoy your weirdness while your ship takes you away from the normal people in life. There you can print in your schoolbooks it is normal where you live. As for us, again, GO AWAY!!!!!!".............
Anti-Gay Marriage Rant on comment boards at Huffington Post... There's just so much to love in here!
I especially like the 'rainbows' part...
Poor Judy Garland can never get back to Oz now!
And let's never forget, a man's privates belong in a woman! Why, in my opinion, he should never take them out!
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Another good one:
ReplyDeleteWe were really glad to hear that School Board is getting rid of them queers. The next thing is we need to get rid of all the niggers, the spics, the kikes and the wops. You know even them Catholics, they are wrong as baby eaters. We need to clear them people out and have good, white, God fearing Christians and everybody else needs to be put to death for their abominations. We'll keep Lincoln County white and right. Thank you.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/lincoln-journal-anonymous-rant-west-virginia-paper_n_2933021.html
Wow, "You even took our rainbow away." I pride myself on being able to get into peoples heads and whatever this is isn't even registering. It's tempting to chaulk it up to "repressed homosexuality", but who knows.
ReplyDeleteCompletely off topic, but I came across this quote on a christian fantasy writers blog and it made me realize that this is something Eric was taking advantage of by only considering half (his half) of the equation.
"but I believe belief in god to be a presupposition, not a conclusion we reach based on evidence. Evidence can remove barriers to accepting the presupposition but the belief itself doesn’t come from the evidence. In that way it can be said that belief (or non-belief) in god is a-rational. It might be more accurate to call it pre-rational, in that we accept it before the rationalizing starts."
Yea, yea, and I presuppose the fairies at the bottom of the garden too. These presuppositionalists are just finally admitting what they've always done with their God, the Eternal Cause.
ReplyDeleteEverything that begins to exist has a cause. God is in there, that's why the whole thing is circular.
I just dry heaved.
ReplyDeleteI just wet heaved.
DeleteGuess these people not only believe that the Flinstones was a documentary series, they also think that Archie Bunker is a reality show.
ReplyDeleteIt might be more accurate to call it pre-rational, in that we accept it before the rationalizing starts."
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Or hey, one can also call it 'irrational...'
"Pre-rational." As if that meant anything other than "too young an age to be capable of reason" or in this case "has not experienced reason yet in one's life."
They seem to be connoting that belief in god is not associated with reason, that it comes before reason, that it is innate perhaps, at least innate in the person that will become a believer?
You know what else is "innate" and comes before reason? Drooling and pooping your pants.
Evidence can remove barriers to accepting the presupposition but the belief itself doesn’t come from the evidence...
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But but... if you're considering and evaluating evidence and that helps you to accept the belief, your reasoning led to belief, but if the belief doesn't come from reason, no evidence can help you to accept it...
I love the New and Improved Republican National Committee's response to losing the election and their subsequent "autopsy" of the party.
ReplyDeleteIt amounts to this:
"Our old product, "Poop-In-A-Can" did not sell last year, so introducing our Brand New Product, "Feces-In-A-Jar..."
Ta Dah!
Know what you mean Brian, know what you mean.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/photo.php?fbid=634247903267391&set=a.116898608335659.16274.108038612554992&type=1&theater
ReplyDeleteI tried that link, and it led me to facebook, and I do not have an account. What, is it like, a requirement now? I don't like facebook. Sorry. :-(
ReplyDelete"You know what else is "innate" and comes before reason? Drooling and pooping your pants."
ReplyDeleteHow's this for synchronicity? I was jokin' around with Emma and told her about the $221 million winner. I said that if I won that money, I'd shit my pants, go out and buy the most expensive pants I could find, then shit them too!
Then I fed the dog and took him out for a poo, no real 'coincidence' there, but while I was doing that I thought I had an accident while trying to fart, rushed back into the house and, thankfully everything was okay. I was like, "That was weird, thinking I'd shit myself after joking about it!"
Then I noticed where on this post I had scrolled down to, yup, the quote above!
That is some weird convergence happening there!
I made you almost poop. Just by concentrating on it.
ReplyDeleteNot really. I am not poop-god.
Like attracts like, is the saying among the magically inclined.
ReplyDeletePoop attracts poop, then.
Maybe it means you're gonna win the lottery. Since you already got the first poop covered, almost...
ReplyDeleteI gave up farting. Too risky at my age.
ReplyDeleteYou know, it's a funny thing.
ReplyDeleteNo, literally.
For me at any rate, and also for you this one time, the 'convergence' is associated with making a joke. All of mine are either like that, or at the minimum, they start with me thinking and usually saying something that amuses myself and so I say it in a very light manner, and then comes the 'echo.' The coincidence.
Holy Crap!
ReplyDeleteI pooped today, too! What a coincidence! (You can stop thinking about poop now, Brian...)
I have a three-and-a-half year old autistic boy, my friend. I never stop thinking about poop. I feel that much like in the Alaskan Inuit dialect where they have like thirty words for 'snow,' in my house there should be thirty words for poop, so much is it a topic of intense discussion.
ReplyDeleteOn this day, of all days, our discussing poop and specifically shitting in one's pants, Jon Stewart had a segment which mentions pant crapping.
ReplyDeleteBrian also mentioned that this synchronicity works for him if the thinks about something in a light-hearted way and, what could be more light-hearted than a comedy show?
If reality(as opposed to RAWKI(reality as we know it)) is somehow communicating with us in humorous way, I, for one, couldn't wrap my head around the idea that people are in extreme pain from various extremely painful conditions(my wife, for example), and it being all just a fucking JOKE!
I've suffered tooth-aches, head-aches, dizziness, all kinds of painful and annoying bullshit, not to mention the outright batshit crazy, greed, 'I'm-alright-Jack-ism' and lies of right-wing politicians, warmongers, 'shove-religion-down-everyone's-throat-ers', etc. etc., and while it may seem insane, it's hardly insanely FUNNY!
Brian's BB Theory, to me, would be like the Satanic insane clown on Spawn being in control, controlling how much misery, how much shit is going to fall on us, just for a fucking laugh! I couldn't fucking STAND IT to be true!
Honestly, it cannot be the 'ultimate truth' because it would be so fucking diabolical, so fucking assholey, if I believed it were possible I feel I'd go insane.
I never saw it in that light. What I see is that the coincidences are indicative that this universe responds to our feedback, which is our subconscious expectations, but the REAL ones, the deepest ones, not the surface thought kind, so the humor accomplishes the task of getting the thing down to that level so it gets "echoed" back to me or you. The pain part is again, what we expect considering the state of our bodies and what we do with or to them, *in the dream* which is our only reality. We give ourselves the pain in a way, but it may be that it's unavoidable considering we lack the ability to make major changes to the *dream* because it would destroy the illusion of realness for everybody if we could do that.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that we talked about the poop coincidences, and the fact that poop is inherently funny to talk about, caused an additional echo, that's all. (I don't actually think you're taking it seriously, btw, pretty sure you're joking...)
(although, I hope you don't let it upset you if you aren't joking)
Perhaps it's better to not think on these things too much or you may not wind up sane at the end, and I'd hate to have that on my conscience. :-)
I'll tell you what almost drives me insane. When I sense directly, as I have from time to time on salvia, that I am the only, single, one consciousness in the whole universe, all alone, just me. Or rather, just us, in the sense that I also sense that others exist, but *only as parts of me!* I sense that I'm basically the universe, lying to myself that I'm the many when it's only me, so as to not go insane due to the sheer isolation and loneliness of it all.
ReplyDeleteIt has actually hit me that way once or twice.
In fact, here's a headtrip, one time, I think the first time, that that happened, I got up and went to wake up my wife in bed nearby, and I told her, and just before she answered me, I knew exactly and precisely what little platitudes *I* would be using *issuing from her mouth* to placate *me.*
ReplyDeleteAnd then she spoke, and said precisely what I thought she would. To the word. Forget the precise thing, but it was something like 'don't worry about that honey, it's just a dream or an illusion or something...' But they were the precise words that I expected. Exactly.
I definitely do not think that all this is a joke, all the suffering a joke. To me the humor is just a kind of energetic type of my own thought that bypasses my own internal defenses against that sort of thing, against "echoes," and causes one to occur. I'm not getting the 'universe is laughing at me' feeling here; more like, when I laugh at things they tend to penetrate my thick skull.
ReplyDeleteReality is only communicating with us in a humorous way when we start that conversation with humor. The real deal is, that reality is always communicating with us in ALL ways, but we accept that as our life and beyond our control, when some of it is within our control because some of it we bring on ourselves by thinking about it. I would suspect that FEAR is just as effective at getting a thought to penetrate, as humor is. Think about the implications of THAT.
ReplyDeleteSalvia 'tells' me that fear and terror are connected to pain, and that happiness and laughter and such are connected to pleasure. I mean that in the literal, physical sense. What is pain but our cells feeling existential terror and communicating that to us? What is pleasure but the laughter of our cells? And what are our cells but discrete yet interconnected units of our own (gestalt) consciousness?
ReplyDeleteI have even banished pain with pleasure. It works, if you can concentrate on both the pain and the pleasure and then merge the two at the site of the pain. I've gotten rid of headaches, all manner of stomach ailments, and one nasty toothache in that way, immediately, and it doesn't come back. If you can feel pleasure, even a nice back rub, or hey, sexual pleasure, and then move that feeling of pleasure, that tingly glow inside, to the site of the pain, they cancel each other out.
(Of course, I can only do things like that while on salvia. It really is a healing herb; I can see that now, and I know why and how it works. It has no analgesic effect or direct healing effect; instead it allows you to heal yourself.)
ReplyDeleteLast night I was meditating on salvia in the bedroom, wife and dog asleep on the bed. As I sometimes do, I attempted mental contact, first with the dog. I went deep inside myself and imagined myself cuddling the dog face-to-face and telling him he's a good boy and so forth... immediately the dog woke up and snorted and moved around and went back to sleep. I then went to the wife (forcing myself to not feel anything about the dog,) similar meditation, imagined cuddling her and kissing her, in close contact; she immediately woke up. Even got out of bed to get a tissue. So not proof of any kind, but more interesting coincidences perhaps? Who knows? I don't, at this point. But if that happened to you, wouldn't it at the very least give you pause?
ReplyDeleteIt must seem so incredibly flaky to you, Ian. I can still see this with my "old mind" of say twenty years ago, and I would have made fun of me.
ReplyDeleteBut I wasn't joking, I wasn't making fun of you. I couldn't imagine any of the religions to be true and most of them imagine a spiritual realm which RAWKI is connected to through each person's mind, yet there is the problem of evil. Pointless pain. An evil person, to me, is a person who goes around inflicting pointless pain on other thinking beings, but if an immaterial reality is controlling RAWKI then pain is caused by that reality as we wonder through RAWKI with our pointless pain, angst, fears etc. etc. with a few laughs thrown in, why? So we don't get used to the bad shit? That would be diabolically evil, wouldn't it? Everything that tastes good is bad for you, what kind of consciousness would dream up that for RAWKI? Fucking EVIL, that's what.
ReplyDeleteI suppose so, but that's not how I see it. I think we deluded humans cause a lot of the evil, and the food thing is just because we evolved with no availability of such things and craved certain tastes that are now widely available in quantity such as sugars and fats that were okay to crave when you could only find a half cup of them a month or so...
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that there is a truth to be found in metaphysics, and that truth is the idea of balance. If you're too far to the extremes in anything, there is the possibility of evil; it's the balance of factors that produces good. So in a way it could be said that this life is a place to learn such balance. Or it's all meaningless matter and energy with no consciousness component. One of the two.
ReplyDeleteNO Brian, we are conscious, all thinking beings are conscious, but that doesn't even very slightly hint at a reality above(or underlying) RAWKI, since our consciousness can be explained by matter and energy and not the other way around, that matter and energy can be explained by consciousness.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't it give you pause to think that every religion has turned the idea that there is matter and energy that has formed life and life has evolved into thinking life, on it's head and is promoting the idea that there was consciousness(they happen to call God) and that IT basically invented(or is causing) the material universe?
For me it is the very part, the turning upside down which came(comes)first, matter or consciousness, that I can't believe for the religions. You just seem to have the basics without a known(to us) Godhead(or teacher, in the case of Buddhism) of some kind.
What you seem to have here is a religion, which is very vague, or you're being very vague with us(the ritual stuff for example), with no name(that you're sharing with us), and with no purpose or reason why the BB consciousness should be split into beings who are part of the one but who are sort of rebelling against its 'truth'. Sort of like the Fall of Man thing, really, isn't it?
So then, it's option B for you. Whatever floats your boat.
ReplyDeletesince our consciousness can be explained by matter and energy and not the other way around, that matter and energy can be explained by consciousness.
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Of course it can. Even Niels Bohr thought that. Even Max Planck gave it credence. It's just a paradigm shift. One that you will not consider, but valid nonetheless. Why, it's your *belief* that matter and energy cannot be explained by consciousness, but that's not a fact that is so easily proven. All your evidence can either be real evidence, or evidence made of consciousness, no way to tell.
You seem insistent that it cannot be. So if it is, you will always see evidence that it is not. It will give you what you expect, as it does everybody. The only way to even see it, is to expect it to show it to you.
Oh yea, it occurs to me that one of the main justifications for religion is the fear of death. The fear of death is a powerful influence. We may well say, "I'm not afraid of death, it's not going to bother me to die!", and be being quite honest about it.
ReplyDeleteBut what about the people that you love, how do you feel about death for them?
How about the fact that the inate fear of death is one of the things that keep people alive? It seems to me to be hard to imagine that we fear death for others or for others sake(I don't want to die and leave my family in the lurch, how will they get along without me?), but manage to be not bothered about each of ourselves dying.
Fear of death is a good thing, a thing we teach our kids, a thing we've been taught by our parents. "Don't go too near the edge kid, you might, fall off the cliff/get swept away by the current/get lost/ get grabbed by that panda bear/skate into the traffic etc. etc.
We don't laud a person for their fearlessness if they electrocute themselves by dropping a radio in to their bath or by sticking a fork into their toaster, or if they drive like a maniac, precisely because they should have feared for their life!!!
I'm getting carried away here, so I'll finish up. Seems to me that with all this fearing of death a lot of us would cling to, or create, a reason why it is that when we die, we're not 'really' gone, that there is an underlying reality, which, though we may only be able to get hints of, stands over RAWKI and ensures that our essence will never be gone.
I think your BB theory is a search for such a reality.
Perhaps it is, but I didn't start the search and find this; I found this and that caused me to start the search. There's a big difference. I was getting the coincidences, looked around in books for something that might explain them or for other people that had them, and one thing led me to another, and here I am.
ReplyDelete"One[theory, that consciousness is basic and matter/energy is created by consciousness] that you will not consider, but valid nonetheless."
ReplyDeleteIt isn't an equal opportunity thing like a chicken being just an eggs way of making more eggs. As if that is technically true, it is, but it's trivial.
Consciousness is a process through time. Are you saying that time is supreme here? (yes or no Brian!)
Don't physicists say that there was no time before the Big Bang?(yes or no Brian!)
Do you agree or disagree with those physicists you say that there was no time before the Big Bang?
If you do agree with them, then there cannot be a God or gods since they would be without consciousness, since consciousness is a process through TIME Brian, right?
I could go on and on Brian, but you seem to be willing to use the same kind of rationale, the mystery and awe behind 'time' and how the beginning of us in RAWKI was so far back, the mystery and awe behind how, when physicists look ever closer at particles of matter, looking below RAWKI, it exposes a reality that is alien to us, a reality below the electro-magnetic solidity that is RAWKI.
But it doesn't hint at us being consciousnesses in the sense of our limited subjective consciousness that we all use to model RAWKI, that process in our brain that we use to model RAWKI, no, this would be an entirely different kind of consciousness where only the name, the word 'consciousness' is the same, and that it is not a process in time, a process through time.
Right? Or am I not right here?
Every religion grants RAWKI(reality as we know it), and that reality that they grant is a process through time. In fact they have to, to shoe-horn in their god or their spiritual realm, they just HAVE TO, propose a mysterious realm that is outside of time, outside of RAWKI. I don't see how yours is different in that respect, do you?
ReplyDeleteThat whole notion, by some physicists, that reality is a projection on a two dimensional surface of a black hole, seems to me to be a kind of escape hatch back to the notion of a mysterious realm completely outside of RAWKI, but CAUSING RAWKI, your basic religious/spiritual back door, right?
But is it two dimensional surfaces all the way down, like the Hindu turtles, because where does the black hole itself reside since it doesn't reside on its on surface, right? And how is RAWKI projected, what is projecting the real two-dimensional 'skin' of the black hole and what is it projected on to? There's a missing projector and a missing 'screen'(in a movie analogy). If there is a three dimensional reality where the two dimensional reality of our RAWKI resides, then isn't there another black hole where that three-dimensional reality is projected from, surely?
The mind boggles, there's infinite regress which is worse than the idea that our universe is material, cyclical and we just happen to to be so short lived that we cannot see the big picture, the big 3D picture even, hah.
It's all just consciousness, and in that we perceive what we expect to, so over time these 'facts' form that we live by and believe to be true and even immutable.
ReplyDeleteWe can go around and around here, but it will always be RAWK! to you, my friend.
I just changed my profile, in your honor. Check it out. ;-)
MIND is eternal. All there ever was, is MIND. There is no regression if you can accept that. It removes all regression, more so than science does. All things that boggle the mind, like infinities and causality, disappear in the light of that one thing.
ReplyDeleteThat whole notion, by some physicists, that reality is a projection on a two dimensional surface of a black hole, seems to me to be a kind of escape hatch back to the notion of a mysterious realm completely outside of RAWK
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They're scratching the surface of the truth, but they cannot accept that all is consciousness so they must postulate mythical singularities on which surface we exist in a 'flatland' kind of thing... I don't buy it, but I do find it interesting enough to have quoted it several times, mostly as an example of how far they're reaching now.
See, nothing can exist forever, however *no-thing* *can* exist forever. And does. That no-thing, is still something, because it is pure consciousness without space, without matter, without energy (as we think of it) and without form other than what the mind, which is just a subdivision of the whole, gives it.
ReplyDeleteHow can we perceive something that is no-thing? Simple. Because we are no-thing too.
since consciousness is a process through TIME Brian, right?
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Not sure about that. If all is consciousness, then time is a function of that, and not the reverse. It flips everything, more or less. Time may simply be the rate at which the consciousness-structure that we call a body is capable of experiencing this dream-like reality that we call the Universe, something basic to the dream without necessarily being basic to the greater reality that is pure consciousness.
Science would say that the speed at which we experience reality is determined by the entropic process of our metabolism and body. So a hummingbird experiences time much slower than we do, for an example. A tree much faster. And so forth. It's not the same for everything, and likely isn't precisely the same for every human.
ReplyDeleteIf it's all consciousness, then we simply created all of that to justify our dream. We needed to explain everything in terms of science and logic; what I'm saying is perhaps an explanation didn't even exist before we thought one up, accepted it, and believed it.
There are different ways to look at the idea of all being consciousness.
ReplyDeleteThe "hard" interpretation and the "soft" interpretation.
In the "hard" interpretation, all of this is basically a dream; nothing is actually as we think it is, and even evolution is a mirage, added in 'after the fact' to explain our present state.
In the "soft" interpretation, everything is MADE OF consciousness, but other than that, everything else that science has to say, is true; the only difference is, what science describes as matter and energy, is "made of" consciousness, but in all other ways acts like dead matter and nonsentient energy, *almost* all the time. It acts like we expect it to act, and since we expect it to act like nonsentient matter and energy, it does... only when we expect it to not act that way does it give us hints that it's not what it appears to be.
It could be one, the other, or something in between.
Theists turn-tables like that all the time.
ReplyDeletee.g. You say that I choose to believe that all is meaningless matter but you say that you choose to believe a meaningless immaterial reality.
Also, you seem to be putting forward, in your arguments, that it's a 50/50 proposition, but we have a LOT more evidence that RAWKI is the only reality than for all the gods and/or spiritual/"MIND" realms.
Given a push, you start up with the same kind of rhetoric that theists do, since 'THE MIND' is surely what sophisticated Catholic metaphysicians mean by 'GOD', don't you think?
We say, "Just read the Bible! Just read the stupidity, meanspiritedness, genocide and so on, how could you believe that nonsense is inspired an all-loving GOD?
They say, "But you must understand the Bible from the writers perspective, they were Ancient Near-East people, doing their ANE thang, right?
So they turn-tables on anything we say. We say, no God since the Bible is drivel, they say yes God 'cos those people were primitive, and so on.
Do you believe in 'THE MIND', then you pretty much believe in 'GOD' as sophisticated Catholics do.
Who is to say that 'THE MIND' didn't just think us all up with our memories up to date last Thursday? Of course our memory would be insisting that we had lived through it, of course it would.
And if you're going to go there, why not just you are the only real mind and we're all just projections of that? And of course some of your projections would act as if THEY were the only real MIND and everyone else was their projections.
I didn't want to mention it, but in your particular case, I am definitely suspecting that you are a figment of my imagination. I recognize a slight current of masochism in my personality, and gee, there you are, right there.
ReplyDeleteOh, and almost forgot...
ReplyDeleteRAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bah, your spells won't work on me.
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteEye of newt and wing of bat,
ReplyDeleteTooth of dog and tail of rat,
Show Ian whom the Scots begat
That in this Dream is where we're at.
There. That should do it. Enjoy.
Never think of the pink-eyed newt
ReplyDeleteEven though they're mighty cute
You would be being most astute
To never think of the pink-eyed newt.
A mental virus I engender
A personal mind-bender
Returning thought back to it's sender
Informing judgement that you render
And then, no longer the defender
Of only that on surface-seen
And not well known by inner sheen
Now seeing sights best left unseen
You are no longer crystal clean
For now your vision is acute
Never think of the Pink Eyed Newt!
Don't read that last one, it's fairly dangerous.
ReplyDeleteNyarGGH! The pink eyed newt which I never think of,
ReplyDeleteNever haunts my dreams nor is in the rum I drrrrink of,
I read your poem and it seems to me that the pink eyed newt is a penis, and there's some supposed subtle crap about vision, but my eyesight is not that good and hasn't been for ages. I suppose if I was the kind of person to attribute such as your poem to the subject, the newt(?) and the object, eyesight(?) and something happened to my acute eyesight(which it isn't btw), I might persuade myself it was connected, but...
.. your spells won't work on me Brian!
I was thinking that your poem might be shortened a bit to, "Don't do that boy, you might go blind!" LOL
Here's an excerpt from Deacon Duncan's RWC.
ReplyDelete"The real world context of apologetics is this: God does not show up in the real world, in any literal, objectively true sense of the expression “to show up.” He does not manifest visibly, tangibly, or audibly, nor does He interact with reality in any way that would allow us to verify the interaction and/or His connection to it. Atheists and agnostics have been pointing out this kind of thing for centuries, but the common Christian-vs-atheist debate tends not to deal too much with the inevitable consequences of God’s absence, which are tremendously important and which make the debate very uncomfortable for the believer."
It's about religions but I think it's effective for anything along those lines, don't you?
Of course you realize that your spells have everything to do with connecting to the sub-verbal consciousness, the power of suggestion, hypnotism, the Confusion Technique, symbolism and so forth, right?
ReplyDeleteAnd of course nothing to do with whether there is an underlying realm of consciousness or mind that is True Reality(TM), right?
The pink eyed newt is a newt, as in an amphibian, and not a penis, you pervert. Figures that's what you'd get out of it. Jeeze.
ReplyDeleteOf course it's suggestion and hypnotism, but it's goal is not what you think it is, and everything about accessing an underlying realm of consciousness.
Anyhow, you aren't supposed to think about it.
Besides, it's not a 'spell' per se, and what it is, is something that works as long as you've read it. If you've read it, it's 'in there' working. :-) Even while maintaining "your spells won't work on me!" It bypasses your main brain, and appeals to a more sympathetic one....
ReplyDeleteHeck, it works even if you mistake it for your dick.
ReplyDeleteFunny, you call it a spell but it tells you exactly what it is in the text. Didja miss it? Good.
ReplyDeleteI uploaded a worm. Hope you have MacAfee.
Really Brian, you uploaded a worm? Why would you do such a thing? Why would you tell me that you'd do such a thing?
ReplyDeleteIt's not a computer worm, it's a mental one. And telling you makes no difference.
ReplyDelete(Ahh, just having fun with you)
(or, am I?)
I don't know, are you?
ReplyDeleteOf course I am.
ReplyDeleteYou didn't take that seriously, did you? That didn't even occur to me. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteHey, besides, what would the problem be? If it were true all it would do is to allow you to see the strange coincidences and so forth... not really a big deal, right? I mean, you don't believe in them, but if you saw more of them you might at least start thinking about other worldviews and paradigms, right? It's not like I was mentally raping you.
ReplyDeleteFunny how nobody believes in witchcraft until it's directed at them. Jeeze.
ReplyDeleteMaybe I should earn money by hexing the wealthy and offering to remove them for huge fees. I mean, shit, I'm good!
ReplyDeleteYou don't really imagine that tellimg me that you've uploaded a computer worm on your page, so I'd better have McAfee, is witchcraft, do you?
ReplyDeleteYes I believe there are computer worms which can wreck the OS of a computer, what does that have to do with witchcraft at all?
I never told you it was a computer worm; it was supposed to be a MENTAL worm/virus, and the MacAfee part was a joke, and you usually have a better sense of humor my friend. Far better. I never thought I'd have to use subtitles with you.
ReplyDeleteEspecially since I've been saying for as long as you've known me that religion is a computer virus for brains.
ReplyDeleteHey, who knows? Maybe now you'll start noticing radical coincidences, and then we can really have a conversation!
It was kinda my 'April Fools' joke.
ReplyDeleteYou seemed to almost believe it there for a while, like you were a tiny bit scared that it would work.
Yes I believe there are computer worms which can wreck the OS of a computer, what does that have to do with witchcraft at all?
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Everything, considering how I was using the term specifically for a spell, and couldn't imagine you taking me literally. I mean, it's not as if it doesn't say right in the poem "a mental virus I engender..."
I told you it was better if you didn't think of the pink-eyed newt!
ReplyDeleteI'm pissing you off, aren't I? Sorry. It wasn't my intention.
ReplyDeleteWell, I was getting a bit concerned that you'd completely lost your marbles Brian. I checked out a crazed Christian's site, years ago, from this blog, it wasn't you, but I picked up malware and it, and my attempts to fix it completely wrecked that computer.
ReplyDeleteOnce something like that has happened, connected, however loosely with a blog, it's not something to take lightly. What you saw as just a joke, well, it wasn't funny to me that my pc was trashed years ago.
You don't see that just because you had thought that you had 'alluded' to a 'brain-worm', that threatening me that you had uploaded a computer worm isn't the old(hahaha)brain-worm, doing its thing?
You're not pissing me off Brian. A lot of people who don't understand computers imagine it's some kind of magic, and it is to them, so infecting someone's computer would be exacting some kind of spiritual/divine retribution.
Now you may well not believe that and at the same time believe that EVERYTHING is consciousness/mind, so still believe that, if you see what I mean. Everything becomes 'magical' if it's all 'mind', right?
so infecting someone's computer would be exacting some kind of spiritual/divine retribution.
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I cannot help but feel chagrin that you would believe me someone that might do that to you. I know it's just a faceless internet series of communications over a few years, but I would have thought you realized that I considered you a friend, at least of a sort. I don't screw my friends. Ever. I've had it done to me, so I'm kinda vehement about that one thing. Just so you know, for future reference.
And that's why I said why would you even say that never mind doing it?
ReplyDeleteBecause it was me trying to have fun in a light-hearted manner.
ReplyDeleteYou're kind-of taking this a bit far, no? You misunderstood me, not the other way around.
Okay Brian, next topic?
ReplyDeleteYou are a pain in the ass. That's my next topic. Unless you've got a better one.
ReplyDeleteI have a recommended topic for you: "What is the value of the field of philosophy to a modern world."
ReplyDeleteThe Empty Set?
ReplyDeleteWell, as I understand it, Augustine, while not inventing the idea of Original Sin, sure promoted it. Augustine also felt he could tell lots about the World from his chair, 'reasoning' that there couldn't be any people living on the 'underside' of it for all the wonderful reasons that we might suppose. They'd be upside down, they wouldn't be able to see Jesus returning and so on. As I understand it, he was of the opinion that we would never know if there were people down there since obviously it would be too hot to support life at the Equator!
ReplyDeleteSo, basically, that's where philosophy is at, throwing out ideas about subjects at the edge of the known, then, if it ever becomes known, they'd have been right if it wasn't that they followed the TRUTH of the Bible and if only they had known. So there!
I am not a very good student of philosophy and so I only am familiar with Eric's type, which is biased and slanted toward achieving a goal rather than finding the truth.
ReplyDeleteI can imagine a philosophy that is neutral to the extent that that is possible, one that might be able to shine some sort of light on some questions pertaining to things like the meaning of life and morality and so forth. In a way my own speculations resemble philosophy, in that they are seeking to find a meaning behind what we perceive. Not sure if that's neutral though.
Is it me or does it seem that philosophy is pretty much mental masturbation in most if not all instances? You can argue any point regardless of it's absurdity and apologize (lie creatively) your way out of losing the argument... it's a lot like Tic-Tac-Toe... if both people are reasonably good at it, it's a stalemate every time.
In Eric's type, it would seem that the theist side can be beaten soundly, but not in their universe that they insist we all live in. He can even get away with admitting that it takes at least a grain of faith to see how his side is the winning argument, and so then since we don't see how he won, it's our fault for just not being good enough people to have that single grain.
ReplyDeleteFaith is such bullshit it's comical. And the whole concept of faith and the accompanying dogma that embellishes it and supports it and provides a matrix in which we are more likely to accept it, is also such an efficient "mental virus" (apologies to pboy, I promise you won't need MacAfee!) that it's still taken seriously by most people, in spite of it's on-the-surface level of ridiculousness. I mean really, belief? Faith? Really? That's all you got? Really?
At this point everyone is supposed to laugh at the sheer silliness of it all, and yet so many do not laugh.
They make faith the hero of all their myths. Very smart P.R.
ReplyDeleteWe all feel it when we watch the movies. It's a Wonderful Life. Narnia. Miracle on 34th Street. Heck, even vampire stories and The Exorcist. They knew what they were doing. I get really pissed at myself when I invariably get steamy when watching Wonderful Life. I hate how efficiently they've built puppet strings right into my personality. It's a very brazen lie, to sell nothing as something amazing, but they've been able to support it with quantity and ubiquitousness instead of evidence and truth. It's so peverted to use the inate goodness and desire for goodness in people's hearts against their minds like that. The liars know the age-old secret; emotion trumps rational thought every time, if given the chance.
Of course it's also part of the "Faith" program to hate those without any; so obvious... It has to be like that, or they'll take us seriously for a split-second and lose that magical child-mind that accepts without verifying, and then the religion loses them, and that is frowned upon by Accounting.
ReplyDeleteOn Huffington Post today I was told by some numbnut that I needed to read Thomas Aquinas.
ReplyDeleteHe's the go-to tool when confronted by an atheist that you have no defense against.
I really hate that guy, even though he's dead. People like him do one fucking hell of a lot of damage to humanity.
My response to that is that I will, as soon as they provide me with a synopsis of the knowledge obtained in the 700+ years since his collected wisdom. He is the Sir Bedevere of theology.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'll provide the Christian's answer to that: Wha huh?
ReplyDeletehttp://philosophiesofmen.blogspot.jp/2013/04/the-argument-from-divine-hiddenness-why.html
ReplyDeleteHe is one of my fellow BASHers on FaceBook! Join us Brian, Pliny!
If you want to remain anonymous, make a new email, make up details about yourself. Just have a damned look. If nothing else it might inspire you to write stuff on here and attract BASHers here!
I don't do facebook. Don't like it. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteRepublican legislators are determined that if they stop any restrictions(who can get married) or start any restrictions(gun-magazine size) you guys will rush out and start humping animals!
ReplyDeleteIs there something that you're not telling us? (posted this on FB just a few minutes ago)
I loved Jon Stewart on that last night! "What is it with you people and the animal fucking?!"
ReplyDeleteAnd the next part where he's like "Is that all that's stopping you!" "I just don't have that 'Oh Wow, look at that goat! If only I wouldn't get in trouble!'"
They are awfully preoccupied with the concept of fucking an animal. I guess in their microscopic minds it's like "A man doing another man is as disgusting to me as a man fucking an animal, so that's how I'll phrase it, since no doubt everybody can relate to that level of disgust at a consensual sex act between adults..."
ReplyDeleteHey, I remember my catholic mom acting like she had just popped a rat turd in her mouth when I asked her about oral sex when I was a kid... Ahh, memories... her reply was I think, quintessentially christian: "That's what the *bad people* do!!!" And heck, that was just oral sex between hetero partners, so you can imagine the level of visceral disgust these people feel at gay sex. They have a lot of very dark shit in their psyches.
It's true though... maybe they just know how their menfolk are with the farm critters and judge everybody by that.
ReplyDeleteNeil Horsley comes to mind.
(I still can't get over that guy's name)
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